Monday, July 25, 2011

I rarely find myself without words. Trying to wrap my head around the massacre in Norway where almost 90 kids lost their lives this weekend is pretty hard though. The deed itself was bad enough, the outcries of hate and racism and general bigotry afterwards.. didn't really help. The Norwegian government handled it all extremely well but they can't stop single minded idiots from voicing their opinions. It's kind of weird to say it, but I'm glad the guy who did it eventually turned out to be white.

A lot of so-called experts were surprised to find out muslim fundamentalists weren't behind it. Some called it an act of terror for as long as they thought brown people were doing the shooting, when they found it was a single white guy, all of a sudden it wasn't terrorism anymore. Just like that he was just some deranged guy who played too much World of Warcraft instead. It's like there only are two kinds of killers; middle easterners and gamers.

Realitycheck.

Between 2006 and 2009, 1 770 acts of terror were commited in Europe. Six of them were connected to muslim fundamentalists. That makes 0,34%.
1 596 acts of terrorism, or 90,2%, were connected to right wing fundamentalists.

And I bet not even that many of them played WoW.

20 comments:

Diego Sousa said...

good work on your post :)

That Bastard From Bellingham said...

You'd be surprised at how many Muslims play MMO's. I'm just sayin'...

Also, KUDOS AS ALL GET OUT for posting about the massacre in Norway, for massacre it was, instead of freakin' Amy Winehouse dyin' the same day.

Seriousliy, that shit needs to stop, like wit a quickness! 92 kids died between the bomb blast and his picking off those left-wing kids at the island, and the first thing I see are, like, ten blogs about how Amy Winehouse died.

She ain't Madonna, she ain't the goddamned Beatles, she's freakin' Amy Winehouse, an unrepentant drug user.

Now, as far as the Norweigan guy...I have to admit what pissed me off the most was the smokescreen that he himself was Muslim. I have my own issues with "terrorism versus freedom fighters" and, even more so, "Extremist Muslims versus Normal Muslims" or even "Extremist Christian versus Normal Christian."

From what I've read of his manifesto, the reasoning (if it can be called that) behind this coldly calculated slaying spree wasn't religion inexactly as it was the Muslim invasion of his country over the past few years.

Speaking as an American, I do believe that a melting pot is a wonderful place to live in. Diversity makes a group stronger.

BUT, butbutbut, there are many all over the world pushing forth an agenda of "multiculturalism," which is far different and damaging than diversity in and of itself. It's one thing to say "our borders are open to all, come and make us stronger" versus the aggressive campaigning that those wearing the banner of multiculturalism wave. To replace one's culture with another doesn't make one stronger, it devalues that culture (unlike a melting pot where the flavors comingle and are enhanced by one another - do you see the difference I speak of here?) and is nothing less than a invading conquest.

Now, with all THAT said I still believe he went about it the wrong way. Violence IS an effective measure (in b4 people saying "Violence isn't the answer!" because it's not - it's the question, it's the answer, it's what writes the history books folks), but in this modern day it's simply not enough.

Indeed, there are far better ways that he could have dealt with this rather than taking the lives of his own countrymen, even if he was that staunchly their enemy.

Hell, the guy was smart/ruthless enough to build up the cash funds and resources as he did, if he had just put that towards building up an anti-left winger party that aggressively showed their ineffectiveness...

I'm passionate about many things. Self-defense, and the right to take an aggressive life should it attempt to take yours, is one of those things I'm extremely passionate about. What he did though wasn't self-defense, despite his reasons.

Cold-blooded and calculated murder is exactly that.

Hell, he's just lucky he did this where he did and not, say, Texas...where death penalty would be probably levied without a second thought.

Then again, Hitler wrote Mein Kampf whilst in jail after WW1...I'm just sayin'.

Ala Mode 7 said...

Terrorism isn't really real, it's just a buzzword we use when we mean the badguy who is killing other people for reasons our culture doesn't understand. I mean, wouldn't any mass killing that's not over personal problems between the victims and killer at all be considered terrorism then?

StigmataHandjob said...

TBFB: Multiculturalism the way I see it IS the melting pot you're talking about, so it would seem we have different definitions of the word. I understand what you mean though, and I agree with what you're saying. I don't know what it's like in America, you guys have a longer history of mass immigration and may be better at dealing with it, but in Sweden there's quite a lot of tension between those who are percieved as too liberal and increasing amounts of openly racist people.

I put myself on the (relativly) liberal side of the fence regarding immigation, I believe those who have no homes to return to should be able to make a new one in a place where they can be safe. However, I also believe that these people are responsible for making the most of the chance they're given. I know immigrants who learn the language, work hard, study and do their best to adapt to their new reality, and I know immigrants who do none of these things and prefer to hurt and scare people.

So the system isn't flawless, a lot of problems can be blamed on that, but people do also have a choice whether to work within the given conditions, such as the law, or not. And if they don't, fuck them. But individually, not collectively.

StigmataHandjob said...

Ala Mode 7, that's true. Terrorism is a very convenient word, loaded with power and with no real definition and it's used very arbitrarily.

Dwrek said...

It brings us together atleast

That Bastard From Bellingham said...

@Stig - Hmmm. Let's put it like this:

Multiculturalism (or the doctrine as I'm reading it by those who are for it) = a delicious steak (your culture) smothered in too much gravy (someone else's culture). If the gravy didn't have such an overpowering taste, the steak would be frikkin' awesome and be, instead, enhanced by the gravy. Instead the gravy's flavor takes over completely, and you're told to eat your dinner or you won't get dessert.

Melting Pot (as I'm puttin' it forth) = a stewpot. Just period. Ingredients that complement and enhance once another simmering in a delicious liquid of some sort. That's a universal concept and, so long as the chef knows what the hell they're doin', the stew is gonna be fabulous BECAUSE of the different and complementary ingredients thrown together.

But let's not get the idea of a "chef" in this metaphor - it'd screw it all up to hell then it'd turn into a theistic discussion. Which this is not.

No, I thoroughly support people mingling cultures, or bringing some of yours to enhance mine...but you purposefully left your culture to join mine. If you want to supplant MY culture for yours, than it is an invasion and I am fully in my rights to stop you with any means necessary.

Self-defense 101.

Y'know, the most hypocritical thing I've ever heard STILL is from a Russian-American immigrant who apparently left his country in order to practice his Christian faith...so he came to America where religion is free.

Then he learned that it was free for EVERYONE, that all religions were granted a free run here.

And that offended him.

Think about it...he left his country due to religious persecution in order to come to a place that allows him to follow his beliefs but he felt that it was wrong for any other religion to do so as well.

In a country that allows freedom of religion.

Because of not only that, but also many other examples such AS that (not just from Christians but from many other types, all frikkin' morons) that I'm such a bitter curmudgeon.

Sure I have hope for the future of humanity, but it's a very, VERY small hope.

The Dawg said...

It was the same thing after the Oklahoma bombing in the US. People thought it was foreign terrorists, and it turned out to be a couple of guys from the neighbourhood. I just hope we can all learn and grow stronger from this event.

Bigshanks BSc said...

Good work on the post mate,

Banacek said...

I'm not really in a position to comment intelligently. I don't know the facts other than what I've read.

Film Geek Bastard said...

Terrorism is terrorism. I did hear that American far-right anti-Islamic blogs have fueled his deranged mind.

Devour said...

Wow this is horrible news! I had not heard of this till today "p I cant believe people actually would do this.

That Bastard From Bellingham said...

@FilmGeekBastard - First off, have I mentioned how much I love your name?

Dude, we're bastards!

Anyway, naaaaw man. He was acting out against Islamic immigration (which has been going on en masse for some years now), which he believed was a far larger threat than anything else. He had seen the fall of France and even Britain (though admittedly just France has really succumbed, though that's a bit of an extreme word...succumbed...) and believed the same thing would happen to Norway.

Sweden?

Er, wherever he performed the massacre.

Anyway, while it's true he's apparently a right-wing conservative christian extremist (and a Mason HAH!), there was a fuckhueg smokescreen that went up almost immediately that he was a Muslim.

Now THAT is what gets my anger goin' like supermad. The political maneuvering that's goin' on by certain groups with what should be considered to be an incredibly horrific event.

For the record, terrorism is terrorism...and freedom fighting is freedom fighting. There IS a difference, much like my "multiculturalism versus melting pot" thing.

A person who takes a victim and uses them as a human shield is a terrorist. A person who makes of their self a human shield to protect victims is a freedom fighter.

A true guerrilla utilizes tactics that harms "the people" or their land only if said people have given up and left the land.

A terrorist blows shit up without care of their surrounding outside of doing as much damage to all there (civilians, military, the actual targets, some guy eating a bagel, etcetera).

A freedom fighter can do what needs be done with courage in the face of adversity without the use of drugs or using religious dogma as a crutch and an excuse.

A terrorist...well, you get the idea by now. Quite a few (i.e. - all) of the terrorist cells out there today utilize BOTH religious dogma (extremist or not) AND drugs in order to keep their soldiers pliable and willing to "do what needs be done" in order to further agenda.

Maybe I'm naive, maybe I'm flat-out wrong...but that's how I define things based on my own observations and experience.

movie68 said...

It sucks that there max sentence is only 21 years hopefully he gets longer.

Come At Me Bro said...

This is great!

Winston's Dog said...

Great post and a fascinating statistic. I wonder if you could tell me the source of the stat so I could write about it too? Not that I want to steal your content, obviously :)

Elliot MacLeod-Michael said...

Terrorism is such a subjective and incendiary term that it probably shouldn't be used at all. Often it's use is driven by xenophobia and political motives, which is no good for anyone.

blorriepoes said...

i hate wow :D nice post though!

StigmataHandjob said...

TBFB: I love the way you described the melting pot-thing and I completely agree with your view on terrorism vs freedom fighting.
And I can very much relate to your bitterness, I find the vast majority of humans ragingly retarded, superficial, short sighted, hypocritical and egocentric. And personally, I have no hope for anything. Strangely enough I'm happier with that than I was before when I actually wanted to change things.

The Dawg: Yeah, I thought of the Oklahoma bomber too when I heard.

Movie68: They do have a life sentence too, but it's not timed so they just call it storage or something like that.

Winston's Dog: Thanks for the kind words. :) The statistics are from Europol.

chanonymous said...

Maaan you can write . keep it up